I was Nuts, Once

What most of us perceive as reality is a result of our experiences. We seem to perceive reality in many different ways and if someone hasn’t had the same experiences as you, many times they will immediately judge and feel you must be crazy.

Other times it’s a conscious decision. Decades ago a friend helped start the “wilderness experience” programs where they’d take you out into the desert or some wilderness area for a week or two. For many people it was a life changing experience. Because of that these programs still exist today. My friend, Fred, took a group of sociologists, psychologists, and psychiatrists on a wilderness experience. Nearly all of them were, you guessed it, Ph.D.’s. While out there Fred’s dog came upon what we call Big Foot and interacted with it for a while. When Fred noticed what his dog had found he notified the group and all of them watched this extremely large “Being” for some twenty minutes. They all saw, watched, and acknowledged it, every one of them.

Later that night, around the campfire, they decided with total unity, that they had not seen Big Foot. They also decided in order to protect themselves and their careers they would never talk about this experience again since professionals, like they were, would not see something like Big Foot.

Can we all say real slowly, Cognitive Dissonance? From the internet: “According to cognitive dissonance theory, there is a tendency for individuals to seek consistency among their cognitions (i.e., beliefs, opinions). When there is an inconsistency between attitudes or behaviors (dissonance), something must change to eliminate the dissonance.” (Yes, like we all now agree we didn’t see what we saw. Makes sense to me!) And from everyone’s favorite, Wikipedia: “In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.”

Reminds me of my Bishop after Denise came out of the hospital and our first book, My Peace I Give Unto You, was written. He stated to my face, “I believe your daughter had some experiences, which you then embellished and gave them to Rob. Rob then embellished them some more and wrote the book.”

“So you’re calling me a liar?” I asked.

His response: “Yes. After all you are just an Elder. I’m a Bishop, have been on the High Council, taught seminary, work for the Church and I’m a High Priest. I’ve never had any experiences like you claim to have had. Why would an Elder have these and not someone like me?”

I believe my former bishop wanted to believe the things that were written, but only if he had experienced them, just not a lowly Elder. A little over eighteen months ago my current bishop came to my home to inform me that my “belief that (my) daughter sees through the veil is Satanic.” I asked him if that meant such people as Joseph Smith, Heber C. Kimball, Moses, Abraham, and others were Satanic as they also saw through the veil. Though I did wonder if it was okay for these people to see through the veil because they are of the male species. His only answer was that he’d fasted and been to the temple and that idea is Satanic. I thought that was interesting. Isn’t the LDS temple teaching a person how to pierce the veil? Shouldn’t we all be seeking to be true and faithful in all things, thereby being able to enter His presence? And this is Satanic?

Would either of these men accept my experience where the Lord Jesus Christ healed my back by having me bring in a different reality? Good thing I’ve never shared the really good stuff with them….. Or how about when I was on my mission and we laid hands on a man that had not walked in 6 years. After the blessing he got up off his bed and shadow boxed, running up the street proclaiming to all of his neighbors that he could walk!

Or how about my friend Fred that I mentioned previously. He talked years ago at our Ezekiel seminars about his experiences in Central and South America. He mentioned a Stake President down there that wouldn’t say anything when you came in for an interview. He’d just look you in the eye and see your soul. After a while he’d tell you if you were worthy of a temple recommend or not. Or the other man that was given a Book of Mormon is Spanish, a language he couldn’t read. The missionary told him to look at it and what was in it would come to him. He stared at that book for two weeks. The Elder came back and the man said he did as instructed and still had no idea what was in it. The Elder told him he ought to pray. The man didn’t know what that meant, so the Elder taught him how to pray.

The Elder came back two weeks later and the man said he knew the book, forwards and backwards. He proceeded to teach the young missionaries about the Book of Mormon. After a while they asked him how he knew all of it. He said that he had prayed as instructed and heard a voice telling him what was in the book. Soon he realized when he heard the voice there was a man standing next to him, floating off the floor, dressed in white. The man taught him all about the book and then some things that were not in the book. The Elder asked if he knew who the man was and he said yes, he called himself Moroni. This man had a lifelong relationship with Moroni. Does that “bite” your belief system?

Another group of “Natives” had joined the LDS church, but had no materials to know what to teach on Sundays; there were no manuals. The Spirit told Fred’s buddy to go check on them. No one knew he was coming since it was way up the mountain and there was no communication. As he arrived in the village he noticed huge banners welcoming him. They told him the “angels” had told them he was coming. He stayed for Sunday meetings and was amazed at what was taught, as they had no materials. So he asked them how they knew what to teach. They told him that beings of light would come on Thursdays and share with them what to teach on Sunday. The beings would work with them until they understood the material.

So how’s your spiritual life? Do experiences like these cause a little cognitive dissonance in your mind? Have you pierced the veil and communed with beings of light? Have you pierced the veil and are able to hear beings of light? Have you worked with any consistency on piercing the veil, or do you want to just get a navel piercing and call it good? Are you a “burning in the bosom” kind of person? My point is, what are you doing to pierce the veil? How will you be able to help your ancestors with any kind of generational healing if you can’t at least feel?

What about the opposite end of the spectrum? Have you had enough experience with darkness that you know when it is near? Have you ever been deceived? If you answered no to that one, you need to find a mirror and ask some hard questions of yourself. We all get deceived. We all fall off the bike, take a spill while skiing, get a fish hook stuck in our finger, or any thousands of other “dumb” things we’ve done. Do you just quit at that point? No, you get back up and keep going. Evil will deceive us. Learn from it and get back into the game. Repent, learn, and follow the true Christ, not some fake lord declaring himself to be the One.

I will ask it again, “What are you doing to progress seeing, feeling, or even sensing through the veil?” Or are you like the “professional mind controllers” Fred took out in the wilderness and want to be part of the group declaring that these things aren’t real, these experiences aren’t real. Preferring instead to stay spiritually retarded, stumped, stupefied, and overall damned?

As we all progress in our knowledge of light and dark, we will fail at times. Good. We have then learned something. What we can’t do is sit back and say things aren’t really like they appear to be, especially when it’s something outside of our box of experiences. If we judge, we are condemned. Yeah, tell me all about “righteous judgment” and I’ll ask which one of us is righteous. If someone comes to you with an experience, sit back and listen with no judgment. After the telling, then ask Father or the Lord Jesus Christ what they think about it. Pray and ask if it was of light or darkness pretending to be light. Before doing so, make sure you are of light and do not judge it. Learn the laws the Gods operate from. What are the Natural or Gods Laws? How do they affect you and others? Does evil know them and use them against us? I’m not talking commandments here, but laws. Commandments can change, Natural Law doesn’t change.

For the benefit of your ancestors, seek to pierce the veil. Whether it is a “nudging” or full blown visions. It is all piercing the veil. Understand you will be deceived and that’s okay. Repent and return to the Light of Christ. Practice. If you meet someone that claims they have never been deceived or can’t be deceived, RUN. They are not worth dealing with. Their “experiences” and claims will most likely overwhelm you and suck you into their dark abyss. Though, if you feel you can handle it, you might learn some lessons from them. By all means, keep pride out of all equations. The “P” word can cause complete failure. We need to be aware, feel, ask, learn, use wisdom and knowledge, thereby gaining understanding of all of these things, of both Light and dark.

It is okay if others think you are nuts. If they hear about your travels and experiences with the Beings of Light from across the veil, they for sure will think so. There might be times you think even you are nuts! If you hang with Moroni for a few days you may feel like you’re nuts, but I guarantee you will have a huge paradigm shift. Hang in there, God will bless you because you are trying.

Take care and God bless.